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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cyraneth" data-source="post: 1110512" data-attributes="member: 1199">I'm just tired of seeing wizards get reduced in power constantly. Why is it only BAB and saves increase over the levels? 'Cause fighter-types benefit from those. Why don't AC and save DCs increase over levels? 'Cause wizard-types would benefit from that. I know there are items that increase all these... except for save DCs. You can get items that increase both Dex and AC, items that increase both Str and attack, and items that increase Dex, Con, Wis, and saves, but save DCs are only modified by their casting stat. Looking at the basics, a fighter has a +31 bonus at level 20 (+20 BAB, +5 enhancement, +6 Str) while a wizard has only a +15 bonus (+6 Int, +9 spell level). A fighter can keep on slicing even the rare times he fails to connect, while a wizard will have to expend one of his four 9th-level spell slots. How can that possibly be fair? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> And mind that I'm only looking at the rates of success here. Effects (high damage, death, entanglement, etc.) won't mean a thing if they never succeed.- Cyraneth</blockquote>