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<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 1110639" data-attributes="member: 1194"><p>You're beginning to lose me with your irrationality here, Cyr.</p><p></p><p>How dare you point only to magic items and say "Look! there's no magic items that increase save DC's! D&D is discriminatory towards wizards!"</p><p>There are plenty of items that increase caster level, and plenty of spells that increase DC's (have you even LOOKED at Malhavoc Press's Book of Eldritch Might series? You'd love it - trust me). Not to mention PrC's that make spells DC's tougher (you must love Circle Magic from FR), and <strong>feats</strong> as well. </p><p>Save DC's DO increase as you go up - DC 10 + spell level. You do you realize how you prove yourself wrong with almost every post? Also - did you forget about Tomes of Clear Thought? That must not be a magic item, I guess.</p><p></p><p>Why are you assuming that a fighter always hits?</p><p>Do you have any clue how easy it is for a fighter to be rendered absolutely ineffective in a battle? He'd better have the right magic item on him, or he's hosed. What's that? He didn't happen to purchase or be given the right magic item? Well, too bad he doesn't have spells and scrolls that will make him effective again, like a wizard does.</p><p></p><p>And you DARE say "How can that be fair"? When speaking of 20th level wixzards??!</p><p>Dude - do you realize that a 20th level fighter WILL be rendered completely uselss vs a 20th level Wizard with no-save stuff like Forcecage, Maze, and even the "underpowered" Otto's Irresistable Dance?</p><p>That's not a "maybe" - that's an absolute certainty if the wizard wants it to be. Do you even know what the word "fair" means? How is it "fair" to have the wizard have countless things that the fighter can't do ANYTHING about, unless he happens to have purchased/found the right magic item? (BTW: he can't make his own)</p><p></p><p>Is 99% success not enough for you?</p><p>man, you've really gone over the edge with this delusion, Cyr.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 1110639, member: 1194"] You're beginning to lose me with your irrationality here, Cyr. How dare you point only to magic items and say "Look! there's no magic items that increase save DC's! D&D is discriminatory towards wizards!" There are plenty of items that increase caster level, and plenty of spells that increase DC's (have you even LOOKED at Malhavoc Press's Book of Eldritch Might series? You'd love it - trust me). Not to mention PrC's that make spells DC's tougher (you must love Circle Magic from FR), and [b]feats[/b] as well. Save DC's DO increase as you go up - DC 10 + spell level. You do you realize how you prove yourself wrong with almost every post? Also - did you forget about Tomes of Clear Thought? That must not be a magic item, I guess. Why are you assuming that a fighter always hits? Do you have any clue how easy it is for a fighter to be rendered absolutely ineffective in a battle? He'd better have the right magic item on him, or he's hosed. What's that? He didn't happen to purchase or be given the right magic item? Well, too bad he doesn't have spells and scrolls that will make him effective again, like a wizard does. And you DARE say "How can that be fair"? When speaking of 20th level wixzards??! Dude - do you realize that a 20th level fighter WILL be rendered completely uselss vs a 20th level Wizard with no-save stuff like Forcecage, Maze, and even the "underpowered" Otto's Irresistable Dance? That's not a "maybe" - that's an absolute certainty if the wizard wants it to be. Do you even know what the word "fair" means? How is it "fair" to have the wizard have countless things that the fighter can't do ANYTHING about, unless he happens to have purchased/found the right magic item? (BTW: he can't make his own) Is 99% success not enough for you? man, you've really gone over the edge with this delusion, Cyr. [/QUOTE]
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