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<blockquote data-quote="Jotunthe10th" data-source="post: 8493435" data-attributes="member: 7034116"><p>I completely agree with OP. Wizards in 5.0e suck bad. I also agree that it is unfair to say that wizards don't suck because you have to multi-class to not suck. Instead, that illustrates that they suck so bad to have any chance, you must multi-class and get behind in spell progression. To survive before level 10 or so, you basically have to use all your spell slots for defense and even then you are extremely like to go down. You have a couple good combat rounds a day where you can have a spell that is a little more important than another class beating someone down. For all other combat rounds the entire day, they suck. And legendary resistance makes them bad boss killers (martial classes win there too). There is only 1 time in 5th edition that I toughed out playing a wizard to level 20 and he never became the most powerful combatant. You basically get a few utility spells and a couple rounds of combat a day that are above average (when not extremely low level). Besides that you suck completely.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Jotunthe10th, post: 8493435, member: 7034116"] I completely agree with OP. Wizards in 5.0e suck bad. I also agree that it is unfair to say that wizards don't suck because you have to multi-class to not suck. Instead, that illustrates that they suck so bad to have any chance, you must multi-class and get behind in spell progression. To survive before level 10 or so, you basically have to use all your spell slots for defense and even then you are extremely like to go down. You have a couple good combat rounds a day where you can have a spell that is a little more important than another class beating someone down. For all other combat rounds the entire day, they suck. And legendary resistance makes them bad boss killers (martial classes win there too). There is only 1 time in 5th edition that I toughed out playing a wizard to level 20 and he never became the most powerful combatant. You basically get a few utility spells and a couple rounds of combat a day that are above average (when not extremely low level). Besides that you suck completely. [/QUOTE]

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