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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrem Bayle" data-source="post: 1419863" data-attributes="member: 3103">I want argue that Midnight was 100% original. That'd be silly. Most of it was borrowed directly from Tolkien. Now I haven't read much Ravenloft in the last few years, but from what I remember, in most domains, the average person didn't even know there was a Darklord, much less who he was.Sure, you have some areas where the Darklord is a prominant ruler, but those areas usually don't have settlements. The people just up and leave since they have that option as long as the Darklord doesn't close the borders.Take a look at Barovia. Strahd is its master, both secretly and public. However, despite this, the average Barovian isn't too bad off. He farms and does his own thing, but makes sure the shutters are barred shut when he goes to sleep.In Midnight, every aspect of your life is impacted by the war that goes on around you and the evil armies that control the government and economy. You have no rights and no freedoms, unless you are willing to fight.In Ravenloft, evil never conquored good. It was always in control. However, in most places in Ravenloft, the evil is passive. Sure, the PCs will get tangled up in it, but Farmer Bob will probably just continue worrying about his crops.Besides that, according to Ravenloft's backstory, a few Darklords HAVE been defeated and there are supposedly ways to escape Ravenloft. No such luck in Midnight.In Midnight, the forces of good fell to evil. Izrador is a name known by pretty much everybody and his armies cover the continant spreading destruction and death. I'm not saying that Midnight is any "darker" than Ravenloft, but they are certainly different. We both sem to agree on that though, so I'm not entirelly sure what we are debating anymore. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Let's just say, I see your point.My point was really that the campaigns were different because the forces of good had to loose for evil to win. That isn't the case in Ravenloft because good never had a chance to fight back. In my opinion, that, and the way evil interacts with the world, makes a huge difference and makes the setting hard to compare to each other.So anyway. Eberron looks cool.</blockquote>

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