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Why Aren’t the strongest Outsiders Closer in CR?
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<blockquote data-quote="Demetrios1453" data-source="post: 9604276" data-attributes="member: 6801060"><p>The official baernoloth from the Planescape set is CR 17, which isn't too far off the balor's CR 19.</p><p></p><p>We don't have official stats for throne archons or leonals yet, so any 3PP content has to be taken with a grain of salit, especially if it came before the Planescape set, which would set the levels for 5e. The avoral guardinal in that book is CR 9, and, as it's in the middle in power level with the guradinals, I'd imagine an official leonal would be much higher than CR 12. The warden archon in the Planescape book is CR 8, and, again, it's middle of the pack, so I'd imagine an official throne archon would be higher as well. I'd guess the official ones will be at or around the baernoloth level.</p><p></p><p>Also, for celestials, you have angels a separate group competing for those CR levels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Demetrios1453, post: 9604276, member: 6801060"] The official baernoloth from the Planescape set is CR 17, which isn't too far off the balor's CR 19. We don't have official stats for throne archons or leonals yet, so any 3PP content has to be taken with a grain of salit, especially if it came before the Planescape set, which would set the levels for 5e. The avoral guardinal in that book is CR 9, and, as it's in the middle in power level with the guradinals, I'd imagine an official leonal would be much higher than CR 12. The warden archon in the Planescape book is CR 8, and, again, it's middle of the pack, so I'd imagine an official throne archon would be higher as well. I'd guess the official ones will be at or around the baernoloth level. Also, for celestials, you have angels a separate group competing for those CR levels. [/QUOTE]
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