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<blockquote data-quote="UltimaGabe" data-source="post: 3903006" data-attributes="member: 16019">Here's what you do. Lure them onto a pocket Demiplane (created by a 20th-level Cleric with the Genesis spell [Complete Divine], or by a high-level Plane Shifter [Manual of the Planes]), and have the creator of said plane name it something like &quot;Freeport&quot; or &quot;Waterdeep&quot; or &quot;Bob's House&quot;. Ambush them, and cast Imprisonment on them. Assuming they fail their save, they'll be Imprisoned on this pocket Demiplane. Now, they'll be effectively out of the picture, but they're not dead- so even True Resurrection won't do anything. Additionally, any time their allies cast Discern Location, it doesn't give their location, since they're on a Demiplane- according to the Discern Location description, it simply gives the caster the name of the Demiplane. So the caster just knows, &quot;Oh, High Lord Xavier is.... at Bob's House?&quot;Oh, and to make things worse (with a little adjuducation from the DM), you could have had them previously et some skin/hair/blood etc. of the person you wish to erase. Make a Clone of them. Once they're imprisoned, cast a carefully-worded Wish spell to allow another soul to inhabit the Cloned body. (Since the person isn't actually dead, the Clone is simply inert flesh.) I suggest you use a demon or something for this purpose. Then, once that body is up and about, cast another carefully-worded Wish spell to cause all divinations seeking information about the Imprisoned creature to instead seek information about the Clone. That way, as far as anybody will be able to tell, the creature in question IS alive, and, if he/she was previously a good creature, is now rampaging across the countryside slaying everyone he/she comes across. And even if his friends somehow find out that it's not really him (but with all of the evidence against that, how would they?), they then have to deal with the &quot;Bob's House&quot; problem.Does that work?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UltimaGabe, post: 3903006, member: 16019"] Here's what you do. Lure them onto a pocket Demiplane (created by a 20th-level Cleric with the [i]Genesis[/i] spell [Complete Divine], or by a high-level Plane Shifter [Manual of the Planes]), and have the creator of said plane name it something like "Freeport" or "Waterdeep" or "Bob's House". Ambush them, and cast [i]Imprisonment[/i] on them. Assuming they fail their save, they'll be [i]Imprisoned[/i] on this pocket Demiplane. Now, they'll be effectively out of the picture, but they're not dead- so even [i]True Resurrection[/i] won't do anything. Additionally, any time their allies cast [i]Discern Location[/i], it doesn't give their location, since they're on a Demiplane- according to the [i]Discern Location[/i] description, it simply gives the caster the name of the Demiplane. So the caster just knows, "Oh, High Lord Xavier is.... at Bob's House?" Oh, and to make things worse (with a little adjuducation from the DM), you could have had them previously et some skin/hair/blood etc. of the person you wish to erase. Make a [i]Clone[/i] of them. Once they're imprisoned, cast a carefully-worded [i]Wish[/i] spell to allow another soul to inhabit the [i]Cloned[/i] body. (Since the person isn't actually dead, the [i]Clone[/i] is simply inert flesh.) I suggest you use a demon or something for this purpose. Then, once that body is up and about, cast another carefully-worded [i]Wish[/i] spell to cause all divinations seeking information about the [i]Imprisoned[/i] creature to instead seek information about the [i]Clone[/i]. That way, as far as anybody will be able to tell, the creature in question IS alive, and, if he/she was previously a good creature, is now rampaging across the countryside slaying everyone he/she comes across. And even if his friends somehow find out that it's not really him (but with all of the evidence against that, how would they?), they then have to deal with the "Bob's House" problem. Does that work? [/QUOTE]

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