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<blockquote data-quote="Liolel" data-source="post: 1497630" data-attributes="member: 1766"><p>I play a paladin, and I find it a perfectly fine class. Sure I'll admit its not the right class if you want to just kill monsters without a thought, while I have not had many problems along this line (there was the one case where we found a group of intelligant constructs who were made for an evil army but they didn't want to be in the army and weren't evil so the group let them go). Other situations require more thinking but it keeps the game intresting, and often prevents the party from taking the easy way out which when thought about isn't so easy. </p><p> </p><p> Current problem, Hall of The Rainbow Mage Spoilers [Spoiler]We were exploring the dwelling of a mage who had disappered and in the proccess we found the mage was evil and planning on taking over the region. Now we found the mages dead body. The question is what to do with it, If we bring him to his none evil reliatives they might pay to have him raised which is a bad thing. But if we don't bring his body out, we are deciving his daughter from ever learning the fate of her father, and ever seeing him again even just if to accept that he's dead. Third option is to tell his relatives the mages plans but I doubt they would believe us.[/Spoiler]</p><p> </p><p> Now that example was from a published module and I was the one who thought of the problem so the DM wasn't out to get me.</p><p> </p><p> The main reason's I think no one like paladins are 3 in nature</p><p> 1. Players that play paladins really badly (Wotc boards are full of examples like the paladin that burned hobgoblin infants out of spite.) and the dms that let the paladins get away with this. (the dm who posted about that above mentioned paladin let the paladin get away with it.)</p><p> 2. Players that play paladins who have focus on the law aspect and not the good aspect. (Lawful Stupid) (No lieing form anyone, no sneaking around and a dozen other stupid standerds applied to the whole party.)</p><p> 3. Dm's that when a paladin is in the group focus on making the paladin fall. (Worst case I read, and this was the dm admitting what he had done not a players guess was there were two buildings on fire with screams coming from each of them. One was some site that had a lot of innocent people in it, the other was a trap by the BBEG. Whichever one the paladin choose was the trap, and he would fall as he failed to save the innoncent people. Now thats the type of Dm you don't want to play with.)</p><p> </p><p> Those are the main three reasons for paladin hatred but theres several things you can do to most likely avoid it.</p><p> </p><p> 1. Don't play a paladin in a group that as a whole has dubious morales. That is just asking for trouble.</p><p> </p><p> 2. Play a paladin who focuses on good more then law.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Liolel, post: 1497630, member: 1766"] I play a paladin, and I find it a perfectly fine class. Sure I'll admit its not the right class if you want to just kill monsters without a thought, while I have not had many problems along this line (there was the one case where we found a group of intelligant constructs who were made for an evil army but they didn't want to be in the army and weren't evil so the group let them go). Other situations require more thinking but it keeps the game intresting, and often prevents the party from taking the easy way out which when thought about isn't so easy. Current problem, Hall of The Rainbow Mage Spoilers [Spoiler]We were exploring the dwelling of a mage who had disappered and in the proccess we found the mage was evil and planning on taking over the region. Now we found the mages dead body. The question is what to do with it, If we bring him to his none evil reliatives they might pay to have him raised which is a bad thing. But if we don't bring his body out, we are deciving his daughter from ever learning the fate of her father, and ever seeing him again even just if to accept that he's dead. Third option is to tell his relatives the mages plans but I doubt they would believe us.[/Spoiler] Now that example was from a published module and I was the one who thought of the problem so the DM wasn't out to get me. The main reason's I think no one like paladins are 3 in nature 1. Players that play paladins really badly (Wotc boards are full of examples like the paladin that burned hobgoblin infants out of spite.) and the dms that let the paladins get away with this. (the dm who posted about that above mentioned paladin let the paladin get away with it.) 2. Players that play paladins who have focus on the law aspect and not the good aspect. (Lawful Stupid) (No lieing form anyone, no sneaking around and a dozen other stupid standerds applied to the whole party.) 3. Dm's that when a paladin is in the group focus on making the paladin fall. (Worst case I read, and this was the dm admitting what he had done not a players guess was there were two buildings on fire with screams coming from each of them. One was some site that had a lot of innocent people in it, the other was a trap by the BBEG. Whichever one the paladin choose was the trap, and he would fall as he failed to save the innoncent people. Now thats the type of Dm you don't want to play with.) Those are the main three reasons for paladin hatred but theres several things you can do to most likely avoid it. 1. Don't play a paladin in a group that as a whole has dubious morales. That is just asking for trouble. 2. Play a paladin who focuses on good more then law. [/QUOTE]
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