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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DM-Rocco" data-source="post: 2325646" data-attributes="member: 14451">Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread, I am at work and can't do that, but I do have an opinion. DMs mostly have a hard time with the Paladin cause it is harder to have an evil character lie to the party.  Sure, others in the party could sense motive, but if the character is determined to be evil, then most people will just assume that the character is lieing.  The detect evil ability really just annouys the hell out of the DM.  Sure you could give the evil people rings or magic items to hide their evil, but realisticly you can't do that all the time. As for players, most people hate that paladin in the party for two reasons, one, they are the ultimate in morales and it prohibits players from certain actions, like sneaking around or pretending to be someone they are not. Two, people look at the paladin as perfect, cause of their morales, so they are set to high standards and the DM usually makes them swear some oath, making them adhere to even higher standards.  This gives them the perception of being perfect, even if they are not, and when you think about it, no one wants to play a perfect character or have a perfect character in the party.   Having flaws is part of life, everyone should have some.</blockquote>