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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DM-Rocco" data-source="post: 2335437" data-attributes="member: 14451">Well, a good paladin, and by good I mean one who plays one to the letter and intent of the code not LG, we already know he is that, would ask where information came from.  This would be an example of a paladin who fell into the 75% catagory of not being played properly.   Sorry man, if you are a paladin and you know for sure that the player is a rogue, you have an obligation to not steal and to take information from someone who might steal, you have an obligation to stear them towards another end, to bring them to the light as it were. Now, if the rogue never did anything underhanded in front of the paladin and he didn't know he was a rogue, he could easily take the information and not worry about his oath, but to say, 'Great! Now we can get out of here," is just taking the easy way out and that is not what a paladin is all about. Sucks having a paladin and a rogue in the party cause it really limits the rogue.  Of course your DM can turn a blind eye to this kinda thing cause in real life if someone told you this you, 90% of us would be like, 'Great! Now we can get out of here," and that is why paladins are not played properly, cause DMs and PCs use them for smite evil abilities and put the oath to the back burner.  This is even more true when the game has very little role-playing and a lot of 'munchkining' As a paladin you have a obligation to guide others and not do wrong, whether it is wrong you have done or others have done.  By taking information gotten through less than honest means, you might as well have beat the man yourself to get the information. Think of John Wilkes Booth as an example.  Once he shot Lincoln and fled he was taken in by a doctor and treated.  The doctor was put on trial for treason because of his involvement in helping John Wilkes Booth.  Now I am not suggesting that the doctor was a paladin, but the context of the story is the same.  He should not have aided John Wilkes Booth because he had killed Lincoln.  Now you could argue that as a healer he should have valued life and that gets into grey areas, but that is when the PC tries to devine from the DM if it is breaking the oath to heal him or not.  In this case the doctor had a rat bastard DM <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Well, I'm sure I'll get plenty of replies over that loosely based senerio, but if you look to it to determine whether you as a paladin should do something as trival as taking aid from a man whom you know had gotten it from a less than honest source, then you too are just as guilty of the crime.   Can't do the crime, don't play the class.</blockquote>

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