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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5185737" data-attributes="member: 2011">This is the main advantage of Winged Horde. There are definitely foes that gain significantadvantage when flanking.Course, good PC positioning can prevent flanking as well as can Fighter's Marks (sure, you can Flank me, but I get an attack against you when you do so) and many other game abilities.Not likely. I hit 2 foes with Scorching Burst a lot of the time. Most PCs try to shift out of flank and boom, 2 are available. I don't know about your games, but I can get 2 foes in a Scorching Burst at least 75% of the time if my fellow players are playing smart.How often are 4 foes out of 5 in a 3x3 section? Not if the DM is doing his job well.Enlarged Winged Horde is a joke when considering damage. A normal Scorching Burst on 2 foes will typically average more damage than a 5x5 Enlarged Winged Horde on 4 foes because of the -2 per die.No doubt, it does take the OAs away for a larger group of foes. But if the OAs have little meaning in the encounter, than taking them away has little meaning as well.This is generally misleading. The chance to hit in MM and MM2 of Will over Reflex is something like +0.5. This is hardly a blip.Not everyone plays elemental empowerment Gensai Wizards.No doubt. Winged Horde is good. It is just not a hands down winner over Scorching Burst anymore. Both have their niches and both are effective.My only claim is that Scorching Burst is now viable for several reasons for some builds and groups.One of them being that Winged Horde is a Dragon Magazine power that is not allowed in all campaigns. Scorching Burst is probably allowed in nearly all campaigns.Claiming that Winged Horde is always better is a fallacy.</blockquote>

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