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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5186066" data-attributes="member: 2011">Oh, the feat that drops -2 to damage that you did not put into your math, but did put into your assumptions.Got it.6 vs 16 +1 implement9 vs 18 +2 implement9 vs 20 level 8 ability score12 vs 22 +3 implement12 vs 24 level 14 ability score15 vs 26 +4 implement21 vs 38 level 21 ability score plus Epic class bonus plus second d624 vs 40 +5 implement24 vs 42 level 27 ability score28 vs 44 +6 implementWith the 5x5 feat on the Winged Horde side and no feats on the Scorching Burst side.Yup. Already said it can easily be better at late Paragon and Epic.Yup. Already said it can easily be better if the DM hands out things like Staff of Ruin.</blockquote>