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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5186367" data-attributes="member: 2011">Reasonable?So, the game is not fun if the player isn't entitled to exactly what items that he wanted when he went to Character Builder and at first level, designed his entire PC all of the way up to 30th level?The DMG actually states that the DM should tailor the items. It also states that "one great way" to do that is with wish lists, but this is not "directions in the DMG". It's one suggestion. That suggestion also has the DM pick from three to five items, not give the player exactly what items he wants.Sorry, but the game is still fun if the DM picks reasonable items without kowtowing to a player's specific optimization ideas.Stating that not using wish lists as not fun is just plain in error. Many games are a lot of fun without using wish lists.Not quite. 4 foes with Enlarged WH with Weapon Focus vs. 2 foes with SC with Weapon Focus:12 vs 18 +1 implement16 vs 20 +2 implement16 vs 22 level 8 ability score20 vs 24 +3 implement24 vs 28 level 14 ability score28 vs 30 +4 implement48 vs 44 level 21 ability score plus Epic class bonus plus second d652 vs 48 +5 implement52 vs 48 level 27 ability score56 vs 50 +6 implementAnd of course, the WH Wizard is using an extra feat that the SC Wizard is not.</blockquote>