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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9163964" data-attributes="member: 7026594"><p>It didn't <em>require </em>any change in play style, particularly for old players who were just taking bits from it and not adopting it wholesale. Why would <em>you </em>change your style of play?</p><p></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/9msXvGzyKW8?si=JlGR2OnbcIPPmAAU" target="_blank">But TSR was definitely promoting the more heroic AKA Trad mode of play, across their entire product line. From rules to modules to epic novels about Heroes with a capital H.</a></p><p></p><p>There was a whole gradual process taking place mostly through the 80s. Products embodying both styles were sold, and even the Hickman Revolution stuff did contain bits of the old style, even as they adopted more and more conventions of, (e.g.) illusionism to maximize the Story and reduce the randomness of the Game. The Hickman Revolution gets named that in part because of the success of his modules and ones echoing his style, and in part because the ascendency of that style coincided with Gary's waning influence at and final ouster from the company. 2nd ed came at the tail end of that gradual process, a few years after Gary left and stopped being the dominant influence on the tone and style of the game. The XP rules are just a little example embodying the shift. And of course they meant nothing to existing players whose approach to the game was already well-established and who had no interest in changing it.</p><p></p><p><em>Edit: Two days after this post Professor DM dropped a vid about what a watershed moment Castle Ravenloft was. Now linked above. </em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9163964, member: 7026594"] It didn't [I]require [/I]any change in play style, particularly for old players who were just taking bits from it and not adopting it wholesale. Why would [I]you [/I]change your style of play? [URL='https://youtu.be/9msXvGzyKW8?si=JlGR2OnbcIPPmAAU']But TSR was definitely promoting the more heroic AKA Trad mode of play, across their entire product line. From rules to modules to epic novels about Heroes with a capital H.[/URL] There was a whole gradual process taking place mostly through the 80s. Products embodying both styles were sold, and even the Hickman Revolution stuff did contain bits of the old style, even as they adopted more and more conventions of, (e.g.) illusionism to maximize the Story and reduce the randomness of the Game. The Hickman Revolution gets named that in part because of the success of his modules and ones echoing his style, and in part because the ascendency of that style coincided with Gary's waning influence at and final ouster from the company. 2nd ed came at the tail end of that gradual process, a few years after Gary left and stopped being the dominant influence on the tone and style of the game. The XP rules are just a little example embodying the shift. And of course they meant nothing to existing players whose approach to the game was already well-established and who had no interest in changing it. [I]Edit: Two days after this post Professor DM dropped a vid about what a watershed moment Castle Ravenloft was. Now linked above. [/I] [/QUOTE]
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