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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ogrehatescomputers" data-source="post: 5359016" data-attributes="member: 94367">I would argue the "fighter doing more damage in a fight lasting longer than four rounds" A power attacking, cleaving, very basic simple barbarian will wreck some stuff up. Esp at low and mid lvl. If you want to play no multiclassing, I highly recommend Pathfinder. Playing fighters is fun. Sometimes I dont feel like playing a caster. Sometimes it's nice to just smash your enemies with sword instead of bending the laws of space and time. There are enough feats that if nothing else, you'll be a pretty versatile guy. There is always another feat worth taking somewhere. Being able to bull rush, grapple, trip, disarm, boost your saves. use multiple weapons, fight from close or ranged. Add hp's. The list goes on. It's always nice to have a fighter in the party. Heck some of the most fun I've had gaming was with a fighter. Sure, you'll never have the Nearly phenomenal semi cosmic power (that screams attack me please) But when someone needs his or her skull caved in with melee weapon. Life is good.</blockquote>