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<blockquote data-quote="Fajita McJones" data-source="post: 5359865" data-attributes="member: 93075">Not to start anything, but are you trying to be insufferable?&nbsp; Poison, level drain, curses, etc. bring down everyone else just the same as fighters.&nbsp; So, um, yeah.&nbsp; You know darn well that&nbsp; I was comparing Fighters to other characters specifically those with a limit of spells/spell-like abilities/supernatural abilities/etc. limited to a certain number of uses per day so quit trying to stir up trouble where there isn't any.I highly doubt that characters without lots of room for long feat chains (like ALL of the tactical feats) would be able to bull rush as well as a Fighter.&nbsp; Bull rushing goes beyond just pushing someone backwards for a Fighter.&nbsp; It means grabbing the previously-mentioned giant spider, picking him up and throwing him on the ground wherever you want and getting a free attack afterward because you knocked him off his feet when you did that.Because Bards don't write epics about wizards?&nbsp; Um, that's about as real life as they get homeboy.&nbsp; Beowulf?&nbsp; Odysseus?&nbsp; Gilgamesh?&nbsp; Ringing any bells?&nbsp; Name one ancient poem with a magical wizard as the protagonist instead of a martial warrior.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fajita McJones, post: 5359865, member: 93075"] Not to start anything, but are you trying to be insufferable? Poison, level drain, curses, etc. bring down everyone else just the same as fighters. So, um, yeah. You know darn well that I was comparing Fighters to other characters specifically those with a limit of spells/spell-like abilities/supernatural abilities/etc. limited to a certain number of uses per day so quit trying to stir up trouble where there isn't any. I highly doubt that characters without lots of room for long feat chains (like ALL of the tactical feats) would be able to bull rush as well as a Fighter. Bull rushing goes beyond just pushing someone backwards for a Fighter. It means grabbing the previously-mentioned giant spider, picking him up and throwing him on the ground wherever you want and getting a free attack afterward because you knocked him off his feet when you did that. Because Bards don't write epics about wizards? Um, that's about as real life as they get homeboy. Beowulf? Odysseus? Gilgamesh? Ringing any bells? Name one ancient poem with a magical wizard as the protagonist instead of a martial warrior. [/QUOTE]

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