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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Eman Resu" data-source="post: 5433534" data-attributes="member: 100340">Whenever Monk is brought up, the knee jerk response is a mid to higher level comparison. This comes from both sides, the anti Monk crowd says they have nice garnish but lack any high level meat, and the pro monks like to use a mid-level comparison. I would like to see them discussed from low to high level. starting from 1st and on up 1st level human Monk and your standard point buy. 20 point? (what is the standard point buy anyways?)  At this level survivability is doubtfull with out at least a +6 mod total for wis and dex. Cant be a close up combatant with a 14 AC and live! Thats a 16 wis and a 16 dex. With a 14str and 14 con does this mean the Monk is suffering from MAD! Ide like to see Monk on a level to level comparison starting from 1st, this way everybody can be on same page.</blockquote>