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<blockquote data-quote="chaochou" data-source="post: 5536551" data-attributes="member: 99817">I'll just echo Raven Crowking here - I think choosing an RPG or RPGs is about having a basic idea of what you are looking for, rather than what you're not.If you're looking for indy-style games which retain some crunch you could look at games using the Fate system which includes modern horror (Dresden Files) sci-fi (Diaspora) and pulp fiction (Spirit of the Century).There's also Burning Wheel (fantasy) and Burning Empires (sci-fi), both of which are fairly rules heavy but are still based around players seeking conflicts and setting stakes.Apocalypse World is great - it has a very simple, but incredibly versatile, dice mechanic - and really captures the flavour, language and attitude of a post-apocalyptic world. There's a D&amp;D hack called Dungeon World which I've not tried but has received a lot of praise.Maybe take a look at Mouse Guard, Don't Rest Your Head, Dogs In the Vineyard.I know I've basically just thrown out a list of games, but I guess the more games you check out the more chance you have of finding one which clicks for you and your group.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="chaochou, post: 5536551, member: 99817"] I'll just echo Raven Crowking here - I think choosing an RPG or RPGs is about having a basic idea of what you [I]are[/I] looking for, rather than what you're not. If you're looking for indy-style games which retain some crunch you could look at games using the Fate system which includes modern horror (Dresden Files) sci-fi (Diaspora) and pulp fiction (Spirit of the Century). There's also Burning Wheel (fantasy) and Burning Empires (sci-fi), both of which are fairly rules heavy but are still based around players seeking conflicts and setting stakes. Apocalypse World is great - it has a very simple, but incredibly versatile, dice mechanic - and really captures the flavour, language and attitude of a post-apocalyptic world. There's a D&D hack called Dungeon World which I've not tried but has received a lot of praise. Maybe take a look at Mouse Guard, Don't Rest Your Head, Dogs In the Vineyard. I know I've basically just thrown out a list of games, but I guess the more games you check out the more chance you have of finding one which clicks for you and your group. [/QUOTE]

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