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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 4293668" data-attributes="member: 18">We were specifically told earlier in 4E's development that you WOULD be able to Sneak Attack with a 2h axe, indeed that one of the developer's characters did such a thing.The amount of &quot;gamer stupid&quot; in this thread is hurting my brain, though. Hand crossbows are not &quot;more accurate&quot; than longbows in the hands of someone proficient. That's a fundamentally nonsensical concept.You do not need to be &quot;stealthy&quot; to sneak attack. You need combat advantage. Thus any argument reliant on &quot;Oh but it's not stealthy!&quot; is pretty much doomed to the halls of extreme moronity (unless you're talking PURELY about theme-ing).The idea that one point of damage sneak attack is &quot;game-breaking&quot; or &quot;dominating&quot; is pretty silly too. It's worth a single feat though, I'd say.That's the answer, as others have said. Single heroic-tier feat, I wouldn't go with a 15 an 13 requirement, that's silly, a single 13 in Dex or Wis should do fine, it's only one point for god's sake.I mean, for comparison's sake, look a Heroic Tier Feat &quot;Backstabber&quot;, which adds an average of 2pt to your sneak attacks at Heroic levels, 3 at Paragon, and 5 at Epic tiers. One feat, no pre-req.s beyond being a Rogue and having Sneak Attack (you'd have thought the former would cover the latter...), and it's INARGUABLY superior, people want to slap stringent requirements on this? Jeez, give me a break.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 4293668, member: 18"] We were specifically told earlier in 4E's development that you WOULD be able to Sneak Attack with a 2h axe, indeed that one of the developer's characters did such a thing. The amount of "gamer stupid" in this thread is hurting my brain, though. Hand crossbows are not "more accurate" than longbows in the hands of someone proficient. That's a fundamentally nonsensical concept. You do not need to be "stealthy" to sneak attack. You need combat advantage. Thus any argument reliant on "Oh but it's not stealthy!" is pretty much doomed to the halls of extreme moronity (unless you're talking PURELY about theme-ing). The idea that one point of damage sneak attack is "game-breaking" or "dominating" is pretty silly too. It's worth a single feat though, I'd say. That's the answer, as others have said. Single heroic-tier feat, I wouldn't go with a 15 an 13 requirement, that's silly, a single 13 in Dex or Wis should do fine, it's only one point for god's sake. I mean, for comparison's sake, look a Heroic Tier Feat "Backstabber", which adds an average of 2pt to your sneak attacks at Heroic levels, 3 at Paragon, and 5 at Epic tiers. One feat, no pre-req.s beyond being a Rogue and having Sneak Attack (you'd have thought the former would cover the latter...), and it's INARGUABLY superior, people want to slap stringent requirements on this? Jeez, give me a break. [/QUOTE]

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