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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 2614729" data-attributes="member: 99">I generally agree with you, Agback.  The only exception that I'll make (and this may be implied by what you're saying but I can't be sure) is that if the player in question makes it clear up front that this is a limitation for them but does not ask that the entire rest of the group hold up the game for them then I'm fine with that.Using your example, if the group decides to meet at 6:00 and the one player must do the kid pickup thing and cannot arrive until 6:30 then I'm ok with that being the understood arrival time for that player.  The agreement becomes that the game starts at 6:00 and the player in question will suffer whatever minor problems are associated with getting there late.  Alternatively the whole group might agree that they want that player to be able to participate from the start and thus shift that start of the game to 6:30.My only real underlying point is that the fact that gaming is a liesure activity does not relieve the participants from the rules of common courtesy and consideration for the others involved.  I believe that most people would agree that if they made plans to see a movie with friends, and this movie started at 8:00, it would be rude and inconsiderate to roll up to the theatre at 8:15 with them standing outside waiting for you and having missed the first 15 minutes of the movie.  To further this analogy as it relates to this thread, I feel that it would also be rude to show up at 8:00 for an 8:00 movie and then force your friends to wait for you while you stood in line for refresments.  You could have eaten before you came or you could have gotten there early and ordered the food or you could have waited until after the movie to get some food.  Instead you are making everyone miss part of the movie because you didn't take care of that on your own time.</blockquote>

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