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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9611560" data-attributes="member: 7026594">I suspect you're right.&nbsp; In the different context he might describe it more as Not For Me, although that's not always within his shorthand idiom, when in review or rant mode.&nbsp; In this 2016 interview he retroactively describes 2010/2011 him as being a jerk, so it seems like in retrospect he was acknowledging that the fault lay in himself.Sorry, where do you get that he was causing problems? I don't see anything in that account indicating that he misbehaved at the table (apart from that one thing in the 4E game).Fiasco is a game which is intended to play out like A Simple Plan or Very Bad Things, Fargo (except Marge wouldn't be a PC) or what have you, where bad people make bad choices and come to darkly funny bad ends, right?His game recap seems like an animated description of how they played out such a scenario in a Lock, Stock setting, and he participated fully and decided he hated it.&nbsp; But the only hint I can see that he might have treated the other players with anything less than camaraderie was his deriding them at the start as being hipsters.&nbsp; Which is suspect, sure.&nbsp; But it seems like he played out a normal game.&nbsp; All the angry ranting seems to be about how he figured out that he didn't like GMless story games, preferred a different framework, and venting about how he basically had an epiphany that he had been lying to himself about how much he liked these games.&nbsp; When he retrospectively describes himself as being a jerk it seems like he's talking about his past self's mindset and attitude, not that he mistreated people.Maybe I'm missing some details somehow?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9611560, member: 7026594"] I suspect you're right. In the different context he might describe it more as Not For Me, although that's not always within his shorthand idiom, when in review or rant mode. In this 2016 interview he retroactively describes 2010/2011 him as being a jerk, so it seems like in retrospect he was acknowledging that the fault lay in himself. Sorry, where do you get that he was causing problems? I don't see anything in that account indicating that he misbehaved at the table (apart from that one thing in the 4E game). Fiasco is a game which is intended to play out like [I]A Simple Plan[/I] or [I]Very Bad Things[/I], [I]Fargo [/I](except Marge wouldn't be a PC) or what have you, where bad people make bad choices and come to darkly funny bad ends, right? His game recap seems like an animated description of how they played out such a scenario in a [I]Lock, Stock[/I] setting, and he participated fully and decided he hated it. But the only hint I can see that he might have treated the other players with anything less than camaraderie was his deriding them at the start as being hipsters. Which is suspect, sure. But it seems like he played out a normal game. All the angry ranting seems to be about how he figured out that he didn't like GMless story games, preferred a different framework, and venting about how he basically had an epiphany that he had been lying to himself about how much he liked these games. When he retrospectively describes himself as being a jerk it seems like he's talking about his past self's mindset and attitude, not that he mistreated people. Maybe I'm missing some details somehow? [/QUOTE]

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