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Message: <blockquote data-quote="demetri0us" data-source="post: 5337098" data-attributes="member: 70085">Well, by substance I guess i mean... you know making decisions based on the motives of your character, not yourself... choosing something in game that may not be in the characters best interest because you know it would be "in charecter" Oh, and not meta-gaming... not distributing treasure to keep the power lever optimal (or heck, fair). Not reacting to a baddies powers before they are used... no table discussion about what everybody's character should do and when they should do it...You know... the usual... It seems like I did that at one point in my life (did I?), but if I did, I don't miss it now. I have bags of fun playing.To me? "Real" role playing (my term, no necessarily everybody's) is not really important. When I run a game for my group, it's like Buffy meets The Gamers... we meta game and joke around having fun all the way home. I think this is role playing to quite frankly.But (and this is where I get the biggest part of the chip on my shoulder) I've had people join those games and tell me that it's not really role playing... And to boot, I'll go to their games and (no big surprise) there is just as much meta gaming and optimization going on (but no anachronistic joking... that's too out of context I guess)... As an aside, optimization (munchkin, monty, cheese... whatever the kids are calling it now) doesn't always mean that you "actually" have an optimized character... It can simply mean you take a two handed sword because it does more damage than say a short sword... I hear all the time "oh I chose this-or-that because it was the flavor I wanted." I wanna be like, "really, ANOTHER fighter using the heaviest armor he can wear and the weapon with the most damage in the category you chose from, really? That's what you envisioned?" Like, call a spade a spade dude. Even if you suck at it, it's optimization if you make a decision base on the rules of the game, not the character motivation. /rantBut it isn't just locally I see this, as I have mentioned, I've played all over heck, and maybe it's just a coincidence, but folks have been the same everywhere. Some cool, some not as cool, but all the groups have pretty much role played at about the same level. My wife would say I'm the lowest common denominator here... but heck what does she know<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />That's not to say that I don't think it goes on... real role playing that is... it just seems like the Eye's Wide Shut party's... exclusively evasive <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> And, since it seems in my experience (limited though it may be) that most games are just like mine, nobody should be made to feel like those games are somehow inferior. I don't think they are.Just enjoy the pr0n you gots, right?</blockquote>

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