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<blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 5338498" data-attributes="member: 813">I think you underrate that &quot;predisposition&quot;. If anyone could be good at, say, writing, there wouldn't so many crappy fanfics. There is a wide gaping hole between a talented person practicing his talent and an enthusiast practicing to gain a talent. Some things do come easier to some people than others. Talent will not make you a chess champion the first time you play. But a person with talent for chess will get farther, faster, with less effort than the person with less innate talent.ON TOPIC: The funny thing about rp vs opt players is I find the games to still be similar. In a game with optimizers, the DM puts them in impossible situations and they manage to fight their way through. In rp games, the DM is usually so &quot;in favor&quot; of the player's survival that he will make game changing decisions that give players ridiculous powers in order to save the party. The players see these deus-ex machina as great role-playing opportunities and go with the flow and knowing better than to abuse their new powers. That's my anecdotal evidence anyway.Original Analogy: The OP got the analogy topic correct, but missed the meme. &quot;If you find out someone has a Playboy magazine, they tell you they only buy it for the articles. Likewise, people say they play RPGs for the RP but mostly, they like the action.&quot; That I think is where the OP was really headed. I could be wrong.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jmucchiello, post: 5338498, member: 813"] I think you underrate that "predisposition". If anyone could be good at, say, writing, there wouldn't so many crappy fanfics. There is a wide gaping hole between a talented person practicing his talent and an enthusiast practicing to gain a talent. Some things do come easier to some people than others. Talent will not make you a chess champion the first time you play. But a person with talent for chess will get farther, faster, with less effort than the person with less innate talent. ON TOPIC: The funny thing about rp vs opt players is I find the games to still be similar. In a game with optimizers, the DM puts them in impossible situations and they manage to fight their way through. In rp games, the DM is usually so "in favor" of the player's survival that he will make game changing decisions that give players ridiculous powers in order to save the party. The players see these deus-ex machina as great role-playing opportunities and go with the flow and knowing better than to abuse their new powers. That's my anecdotal evidence anyway. Original Analogy: The OP got the analogy topic correct, but missed the meme. "If you find out someone has a Playboy magazine, they tell you they only buy it for the articles. Likewise, people say they play RPGs for the RP but mostly, they like the action." That I think is where the OP was really headed. I could be wrong. [/QUOTE]

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