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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Caliburn101" data-source="post: 7265854" data-attributes="member: 6802178">Ah hello again - still focussing on the minutiae and missing the big picture eh? I might be wrong but it does seem to be a theme of yours.I have some more minutiae for you, just in case they didn't occur to you;Cloak of ElvenkindRing of InvisibilityORCSGoblins (of the non-fae variety)The Turning of Undead with 'holy' light (Tom Bombadil was the model for that Cleric ability - I asked Gygax that myself btw).Oh yes, I am reasonably long in the tooth and talked to the fantastic fellow - and he confirmed everything (edit - possibly nearly everything - see below) I have told you so far.I don't give a monkey's uncle whether you believe me or not, and no, I can't produce a photo 'cos back then mobiles were not a thing and I was not in the habit of carrying a film camera wherever I went. That was my dad's thing.Other influences he said were top of his thinking;Conan novels (we both love 'em)Dr. Strange (we heartily agreed this was cool)Jack Vance (yes, that one's well know ofc)Elric (Sword of Kas)AladdinGreek MythologyPlus basically he said he took the most from Tolkien as his earliest dive into fantasy that shaped a young mind or words to that effect. We both agreed on that - alongside Conan it was for me too.Oh and his character Mordenkainen was a mixture of Leminkainen (he loved Finnish Mythology and it's Egyptian cosmology crossovers) and Mordo from Dr. Strange. THAT one got me animated - being an archaeologist at the time, I thought he wouldn't know something like the legend of Leminkainen, you know, pre the oracle of Google. Of course he had hair originally as did Dr. Strange, but that changed.Interestingly, I just checked the Wiki on that, and it says the other name is Mordekai. I am sure they have that wrong. Might be wrong myself of course, I am referring to a very old conversation. Dr. Strange was definitely in their as a strong influence.Still...Oh yes, I was an archaeologist back in the day, and so it is logical to assume I know plenty about mythology and folklore ya presumptive little jester you. Certainly without the use of the internet, anyway... I can also quote the Epic of Gilgamesh and several verses of the Elder Edda - not that you care of course...... you know that it's the best put-down wins the argument on the internet - not actually a valid argument! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I can't remember the other stuff - I only recollect the stuff we enthusiastically agreed on, but there was enough of that really. I had to stand at the back of the queue to meet him just to make sure I got the longest chat.Feel good factor - some memories are like that.As for your most sarcastic comment Sacrosanct - show me a link to a group of ADVENTURERS on a QUEST with a MAGIC USER, FIGHTING-MEN and a THIEF in the party in a mythological tale, fairy story or any other historical source whatsoever, and I'll conceded that point. otherwise - brush up on your style of rejoinder - you know, to avoid foot in mouth circumstances.If you are tempted to pick at the threads of what I am saying and fail to produce anything substantial in a holistic answer to my point - well, it will just prove my point - that Tolkien was the main influence and at least a 4. on the poll scale.1. and 2. are clearly ridiculous, and need the homework as I stated - 3. is a matter of balance and opinion, but doesn't to me mean a majority - which I think is by a country mile the most logical argument considering the non-complete list of things I have put in my posts, and of course 4. and 5. are the strongest scores in terms of rectitude, with 4. right on the money in my opinion.</blockquote>

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