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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7265877" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Focusing on the minutiae? I was replying to what you wrote. If you didn't mean to say that Tolkien completely made up the ranger concept and name, then don't say "Rangers - entirely made up by Tolkien". If you didn't mean to say that Tolkien was the first to have a story about a group of heroes adventuring, then don't say "Tolkien was the first to write this in this manner."</p><p></p><p>Blaming me and attacking me personally for the words you wrote is pretty darn disingenuous.</p><p></p><p>And if you did mean to say those things, then blaming and attacking me for pointing out how that's not true is also disingenuous.</p><p></p><p>Edit* And for an example of fighting men/magic users/thieves: I shall refer you to Jason and Medea. Jason: fighting man. Medea: sorcererss. Half of his crew: thieves. And that's not even considering Robert E Howard (who wrote many of this stories in the 1920s). Or heck, Geoffrey of Monmouth for that matter. The idea that Tolkien was the first person to ever write about a group of heroes in a fantasy/mythological setting on a quest is laughable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7265877, member: 15700"] Focusing on the minutiae? I was replying to what you wrote. If you didn't mean to say that Tolkien completely made up the ranger concept and name, then don't say "Rangers - entirely made up by Tolkien". If you didn't mean to say that Tolkien was the first to have a story about a group of heroes adventuring, then don't say "Tolkien was the first to write this in this manner." Blaming me and attacking me personally for the words you wrote is pretty darn disingenuous. And if you did mean to say those things, then blaming and attacking me for pointing out how that's not true is also disingenuous. Edit* And for an example of fighting men/magic users/thieves: I shall refer you to Jason and Medea. Jason: fighting man. Medea: sorcererss. Half of his crew: thieves. And that's not even considering Robert E Howard (who wrote many of this stories in the 1920s). Or heck, Geoffrey of Monmouth for that matter. The idea that Tolkien was the first person to ever write about a group of heroes in a fantasy/mythological setting on a quest is laughable. [/QUOTE]
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