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<blockquote data-quote="RobertBrus" data-source="post: 7272481" data-attributes="member: 6916518"><p>I don't need to prove a negative, as I am not trying to prove, but to predict. Once again, we--meaning humans--do it all the time. I am making a reasonable assessment based upon current information as to what is not only probable, but quite possible. The fact that Arneson was already creating/playing an RPG strongly suggests it would have made its way into the public eye even without a Gygax. The fact that the world is full of fantasy writing that had no connection to Tolkien suggests Tolkien is not necessary for fantasy. Barker's "Empire Throne" would have morphed into an RPG, as it in fact did. I could go on, but I think this evidence suffices.</p><p></p><p>That his writing had an influence on D&D is quite clear in my mind. But it is also quite clear that it was a lesser effect than some would have themselves believe.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobertBrus, post: 7272481, member: 6916518"] I don't need to prove a negative, as I am not trying to prove, but to predict. Once again, we--meaning humans--do it all the time. I am making a reasonable assessment based upon current information as to what is not only probable, but quite possible. The fact that Arneson was already creating/playing an RPG strongly suggests it would have made its way into the public eye even without a Gygax. The fact that the world is full of fantasy writing that had no connection to Tolkien suggests Tolkien is not necessary for fantasy. Barker's "Empire Throne" would have morphed into an RPG, as it in fact did. I could go on, but I think this evidence suffices. That his writing had an influence on D&D is quite clear in my mind. But it is also quite clear that it was a lesser effect than some would have themselves believe. [/QUOTE]
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