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<blockquote data-quote="gyor" data-source="post: 7354503" data-attributes="member: 6670153"><p>I think to many people focus on the Gygax era when that was just the starting point of D&D, Greyhawk abd Mystara were the Star Trek: Original Series vs. TNG/DS9/Voyager/Enterprise which are like the FR/Dragonlance/Planescape/Ravenloft/ect... which did more really to define Star Trek in my opinion.</p><p></p><p> Example Tolkien may have given the original inspiration for Elves, Dwarves, and Halflings, but it was FR that created Telepathic Ghostwhisper Halflings, Athas that had cannibal halflings, the basic form of elves is inspired by Tolkien, but that has split into Drow, Gold Elves, Moon Elves, Wild Elves, Sea Elves, Wood Elves, Fey'ri, Eldarin, Shadar Kai, LeShay, Athas Elves, Lythari (wolfish shapeshifting elves), Averiel, Snow Elves, and countless other Elven races. Even Dragons that take the Shape of Elves like Silver Dragons.</p><p></p><p> And Tolkien's Elves were shaped by his Catholic faith, D&D are shaped by modern sensiblities and are much more sexual beings then Tolkien Elves, Tolkien's Elves didn't have D&D's sense of debauchery. Tolkien Elves are chaste, D&D Elves dance naked in the woods, work in brothels, and have babies with fiends, and in some setting commit horrifying war crimes.</p><p></p><p> And religion in D&D is vastly different then in Tolkien's universe and that effects every race and class to varying degrees, with traditional Christian influence being far less then people realize. Even Aasimon, D&D Angels are more related to Spiritualism and abit of Hinduism then traditional Christianity (4e's Angels are alittle more then spiritual constructs made made from the stuff of the Astral Plane and serve any deity, no matter the morality or lack of mortality a God has making them even less Christian).</p><p></p><p> Another major influence on D&D that is over looked, mechanics, mechanics have at times driven the evolution of the fluff and is not influenced at all by Tolkien.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gyor, post: 7354503, member: 6670153"] I think to many people focus on the Gygax era when that was just the starting point of D&D, Greyhawk abd Mystara were the Star Trek: Original Series vs. TNG/DS9/Voyager/Enterprise which are like the FR/Dragonlance/Planescape/Ravenloft/ect... which did more really to define Star Trek in my opinion. Example Tolkien may have given the original inspiration for Elves, Dwarves, and Halflings, but it was FR that created Telepathic Ghostwhisper Halflings, Athas that had cannibal halflings, the basic form of elves is inspired by Tolkien, but that has split into Drow, Gold Elves, Moon Elves, Wild Elves, Sea Elves, Wood Elves, Fey'ri, Eldarin, Shadar Kai, LeShay, Athas Elves, Lythari (wolfish shapeshifting elves), Averiel, Snow Elves, and countless other Elven races. Even Dragons that take the Shape of Elves like Silver Dragons. And Tolkien's Elves were shaped by his Catholic faith, D&D are shaped by modern sensiblities and are much more sexual beings then Tolkien Elves, Tolkien's Elves didn't have D&D's sense of debauchery. Tolkien Elves are chaste, D&D Elves dance naked in the woods, work in brothels, and have babies with fiends, and in some setting commit horrifying war crimes. And religion in D&D is vastly different then in Tolkien's universe and that effects every race and class to varying degrees, with traditional Christian influence being far less then people realize. Even Aasimon, D&D Angels are more related to Spiritualism and abit of Hinduism then traditional Christianity (4e's Angels are alittle more then spiritual constructs made made from the stuff of the Astral Plane and serve any deity, no matter the morality or lack of mortality a God has making them even less Christian). Another major influence on D&D that is over looked, mechanics, mechanics have at times driven the evolution of the fluff and is not influenced at all by Tolkien. [/QUOTE]
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