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<blockquote data-quote="Don Durito" data-source="post: 8336737" data-attributes="member: 6687260">Ok think about it this way.&nbsp; My character has 1hp and this is an old school game where 0hp is death.&nbsp; I know that if I have to fight a monster my character will probably die.&nbsp; However, we are this close to finishing the adventure.&nbsp; I decide that even if the chance of finding the macguffin is only 1/3 I'll take the risk.But I don't have 1/3 chance of find the macguffin.&nbsp; I have 0 because I am deceived.If I enter the deadly forest of Yoth and the DM rolls on the encounter table and a beholder attacks me, I may figure, well them's the breaks.&nbsp; I knew the forest was dangerous and we just lucked out.&nbsp; If instead the GM just pretended to roll on the table and made the decision to just have a beholder attack then again I am deceived.&nbsp; If the GM openly decides to have a beholder attack, then I may curse myself for not taking the rumours seriously enough but at least I am not deceived - I'm not under the impression that there was a possiblity that I could not encounter a beholder.The difference here is whether I know the DM is making the decisions about what to encounter or not.&nbsp; Even if as the player I am not making the decisions I am still being deceived if the DM is pretending things are happening due to random chance when in fact they are not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Don Durito, post: 8336737, member: 6687260"] Ok think about it this way. My character has 1hp and this is an old school game where 0hp is death. I know that if I have to fight a monster my character will probably die. However, we are this close to finishing the adventure. I decide that even if the chance of finding the macguffin is only 1/3 I'll take the risk. But I don't have 1/3 chance of find the macguffin. I have 0 because I am deceived. If I enter the deadly forest of Yoth and the DM rolls on the encounter table and a beholder attacks me, I may figure, well them's the breaks. I knew the forest was dangerous and we just lucked out. If instead the GM just pretended to roll on the table and made the decision to just have a beholder attack then again I am deceived. If the GM openly decides to have a beholder attack, then I may curse myself for not taking the rumours seriously enough but at least I am not deceived - I'm not under the impression that there was a possiblity that I could not encounter a beholder. The difference here is whether I know the DM is making the decisions about what to encounter or not.[I] Even if as the player I am not making the decisions I am still being deceived if the DM is pretending things are happening due to random chance when in fact they are not.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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