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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8337962" data-attributes="member: 16814">Here's another rephrase of what you're saying:1) If players choose to do X, it's okay to require goals to do X.2) If the GM forces X on the players, then this is railroading.3) However, I can make the players suffer consequences for not doing X, and this is not railroading.4) Further, I can make all other options for doing X less attractive, but this isn't forcing X, so it's not railroading.Conclusion:&nbsp; I can say that a lich is raising an undead army to take over the world, and this is not railroading because the players can choose to ignore this.&nbsp; If they do, though, then the lich will take over the world and the players will have to deal with that -- perhaps some odd occurrence happens to mitigate this, but probably not (I mean, they could become revenants).&nbsp; So, the choice it to deal with the Lich or suffer consequences, your choice!&nbsp; If you do choose to deal with the lich, then I can require all kinds of goals be met, with any type of specificity I want, for that goal to be accomplished, and it's not railroading because you chose to do this in the first place (or else).That about get it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8337962, member: 16814"] Here's another rephrase of what you're saying: 1) If players choose to do X, it's okay to require goals to do X. 2) If the GM forces X on the players, then this is railroading. 3) However, I can make the players suffer consequences for not doing X, and this is not railroading. 4) Further, I can make all other options for doing X less attractive, but this isn't forcing X, so it's not railroading. Conclusion: I can say that a lich is raising an undead army to take over the world, and this is not railroading because the players can choose to ignore this. If they do, though, then the lich will take over the world and the players will have to deal with that -- perhaps some odd occurrence happens to mitigate this, but probably not (I mean, they could become revenants). So, the choice it to deal with the Lich or suffer consequences, your choice! If you do choose to deal with the lich, then I can require all kinds of goals be met, with any type of specificity I want, for that goal to be accomplished, and it's not railroading because you chose to do this in the first place (or else). That about get it? [/QUOTE]

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