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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8341673" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Interesting perspective. I certainly think embracing the distinct roles of player and GM and playing to see what happens when they interact is a viable strategy for resolving the apparent contradiction you lay out, but I’m not sure what you mean by “Players of PCs play their characters like stolen cars and simply protagonize.” Honest adversity is also a very loaded phrase. What does it mean for a GM, who has complete control over the world and everything in it besides the PCs to provide “honest adversity”? If the GM wishes the PCs to fail, they can insure they do so, which calls into question the honesty of any adversity they may provide.The group improv strategy is a viable one as well, though I personally think it’s one that diminishes the game aspect of Roleplaying Game.Strategy number 3 I can’t make sense of. I’d be interested to hear you expand more on what you envision this looking like.Illusionism is another very loaded term. I question the use of it as a fourth strategy as opposed to a tool which may or may not be used in service of other strategies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8341673, member: 6779196"] Interesting perspective. I certainly think embracing the distinct roles of player and GM and playing to see what happens when they interact is a viable strategy for resolving the apparent contradiction you lay out, but I’m not sure what you mean by “Players of PCs play their characters like stolen cars and simply protagonize.” Honest adversity is also a very loaded phrase. What does it mean for a GM, who has complete control over the world and everything in it besides the PCs to provide “honest adversity”? If the GM wishes the PCs to fail, they can insure they do so, which calls into question the honesty of any adversity they may provide. The group improv strategy is a viable one as well, though I personally think it’s one that diminishes the game aspect of Roleplaying Game. Strategy number 3 I can’t make sense of. I’d be interested to hear you expand more on what you envision this looking like. Illusionism is another very loaded term. I question the use of it as a fourth strategy as opposed to a tool which may or may not be used in service of other strategies. [/QUOTE]

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