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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8343234" data-attributes="member: 6701124">I think it's just that some people don't think it's worth the effort to worry about whether the players' decisions affect everything after it, instead they only worry about the parts the players were aware of, players were concerned with, and parts that were already established in game lore finalized through revelation to the players -- whereas other people worry about all of it. The only problem I see is when some people label the former as not role-playing or construe rail-roadings definition to have been bestowed from on high to apply to both equally -- instead of merely being things they don't like or things they wouldn't want to participate in or their definition of it.I'm in the former camp.&nbsp; Part of that might be that it feels really hard for me for someone to have written down every possible encounter the players could have anywhere in advance -- and that if one is made up on the spot it feels like it is probably related to what was already in the DMs head.&nbsp; Comparing having one or few pre-visioned encounters in their head to drop in when it seems appropriate (the ogre dropping in a bit down any path), to deciding to roll a die when it seems appropriate to pull out one of several encounter ideas out of thin air or a random table (occurring at some point that seems reasonable down whatever path they chose) seems to me a matter of degree than type.&nbsp; Making sure the party always gets to the dungeon and spends a week there, in spite of their intentions and/or trying not to, seems very different to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8343234, member: 6701124"] I think it's just that some people don't think it's worth the effort to worry about whether the players' decisions affect [I]everything[/I] after it, instead they only worry about the parts the players were aware of, players were concerned with, and parts that were already established in game lore finalized through revelation to the players -- whereas other people worry about all of it. The only problem I see is when some people label the former as not role-playing or construe rail-roadings definition to have been bestowed from on high to apply to both equally -- instead of merely being things they don't like or things they wouldn't want to participate in or their definition of it. I'm in the former camp. Part of that might be that it feels really hard for me for someone to have written down every possible encounter the players could have anywhere in advance -- and that if one is made up on the spot it feels like it is probably related to what was already in the DMs head. Comparing having one or few pre-visioned encounters in their head to drop in when it seems appropriate (the ogre dropping in a bit down any path), to deciding to roll a die when it seems appropriate to pull out one of several encounter ideas out of thin air or a random table (occurring at some point that seems reasonable down whatever path they chose) seems to me a matter of degree than type. Making sure the party always gets to the dungeon and spends a week there, in spite of their intentions and/or trying not to, seems very different to me. [/QUOTE]

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