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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8347815" data-attributes="member: 82106">I think there were two weaknesses in my post, one was that I didn't address the fictional side of the +1. I simply noted that this was mechanically required, and thus in that sense the clue would be 'useful'. Obviously the specific content of the letter would feed into exactly how that +1 would play out. This might be left as a 'blank in the map' so to speak when the letter is discovered, OR perhaps if the player explores it my response is likely to be &quot;well, what do you think it says?&quot;&nbsp; Chances are the answer to that will be determinitive. Secondly, there were probably elements of your hypothetical scenario that I might not have hooked onto. I assume it was posited originally up thread and maybe there were more elements to it than simply &quot;someone found some clue to something&quot; and for all I know those elements dictated settling the nature of the clue when it is found. I simply don't know, because I interjected myself into the thread in mid discussion. AS A GENERAL CONCEPT: I would say that if a PC finds 'a clue' about something in the story, then the identity of that thing as being a clue, and that it will have utility downstream is established, and cannot be obviated. The exact nature of the clue, its exact significance, what facts it implies, etc. is another question which unaddressed elements of the fiction might well specify. Or maybe they don't. In much the same vein the PCs might find a map to &quot;Molok's Tomb&quot;. Maybe we know exactly what this is, and maybe it is completely open-ended and all we know is the DR check which introduced it implies that it is useful (and backs that up with a +1 Forward). 'Useful' could mean &quot;We are negotiating with the Thieves Guild and we can intimidate them into doing something by claiming we went to the tomb, since we know how to describe that journey we get a +1&quot; or it could mean &quot;we need to make this check on our Dangerous Journey to get to the tomb, the map is helping us do that.&quot; Neither is determined when the map is found...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8347815, member: 82106"] I think there were two weaknesses in my post, one was that I didn't address the fictional side of the +1. I simply noted that this was mechanically required, and thus in that sense the clue would be 'useful'. Obviously the specific content of the letter would feed into exactly how that +1 would play out. This might be left as a 'blank in the map' so to speak when the letter is discovered, OR perhaps if the player explores it my response is likely to be "well, what do you think it says?" Chances are the answer to that will be determinitive. Secondly, there were probably elements of your hypothetical scenario that I might not have hooked onto. I assume it was posited originally up thread and maybe there were more elements to it than simply "someone found some clue to something" and for all I know those elements dictated settling the nature of the clue when it is found. I simply don't know, because I interjected myself into the thread in mid discussion. AS A GENERAL CONCEPT: I would say that if a PC finds 'a clue' about something in the story, then the identity of that thing as being a clue, and that it will have utility downstream is established, and cannot be obviated. The exact nature of the clue, its exact significance, what facts it implies, etc. is another question which unaddressed elements of the fiction might well specify. Or maybe they don't. In much the same vein the PCs might find a map to "Molok's Tomb". Maybe we know exactly what this is, and maybe it is completely open-ended and all we know is the DR check which introduced it implies that it is useful (and backs that up with a +1 Forward). 'Useful' could mean "We are negotiating with the Thieves Guild and we can intimidate them into doing something by claiming we went to the tomb, since we know how to describe that journey we get a +1" or it could mean "we need to make this check on our Dangerous Journey to get to the tomb, the map is helping us do that." Neither is determined when the map is found... [/QUOTE]

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