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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Walking Dad" data-source="post: 5709188" data-attributes="member: 59043">No offense, but playing a class only when rolling spectacular ability scores, using an item the designers posted that shouldn't work and who is still more fragile when another character he works as a team with, doesn't make the class sound overpowered or a solid class. It only shows the power difference between bad, average and spectacular ability creation rolls.Why is the paladin still so MAD? They removed much of his Wis dependence for class abilities, he wears heavy armor so doesn't need great Dex, is no real skill class or has other need for Int. Why shouldn't be Con his second or third best stat after Str (and maybe Cha)?And why have fighters automatically a high Con? Many feats have a Dex or Int perquisite, they need much Str and they lack the paladin's Cha to Will, so they should never dump Wis.Also there are very good TWF and Archer builds that need a very high Dex.</blockquote>