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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5711312" data-attributes="member: 95493">Because they're SOO MAD - yes.Actually, it is kind of funny. In those examples he gave you do appear to be saying Paladins aren't MAD because they only need X to work but fighters can be built any way they want so they don't have as many dump stats.Granted your point was to illustrate the MAD-ness but he did a good job of pointing out one small element of contradiction.Three abilities does not MAD make. His CHA, CON and INT could all take a hit in the example listed and not have a single problem. Monks have more skill points to go around than rangers and therefore can dip into multiple pots effectively - skill wise.In the last game I DMed I had a player with rolled stats who vastly overpowered and overshadowed the other members of the party. I was forced to kill that character after his third or fourth OPENING ROUND kill of mini-bosses.It is the entire reason I AM instituting point buy into my future games to see if the issue with monk gets resolved. They were just too good in my game. I can understand with point buy they will not be as effective but kindly remember not everyone uses point buy or wishes to use point buy. Those who don't will have a very different view of the class than you. As wolff96 tried to say.</blockquote>