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Message: <blockquote data-quote="isoChron" data-source="post: 1002531" data-attributes="member: 5927">Maybe they feared the splatbooks (weapon master will still get +2 on crit range with your rule) and third party products with feats or magic enhancements that will still add crit range beyond keen and improved crit.I don't know if they gained anything ... now I guess there will be many weapons with 18-20/x3 or 16-20/x2 or something like that in the third party books.In our first group it is unsure if we will use the new (non-)stacking rule. In our second group it is sure that we still use 3.0 keen and improved crit (and weapon master). I have never seen anyone with a crit range of better than 12-20/x2 (Rapier). Most keep using bastard- or longsword with imroved crit. Since Bless Weapon only works on non-keen weapons no paladin (or PrC with bless weapon) will ever use a keen weapon. Pure fighters are very rare in our groups and to become a weapon master you have to give up a lot of feats. Real fighters don't use "knitting needles" (rapier) in our game. They use real swords or axes.The falchion in D&D is all other but a real falchion (maybe a twohanded heavy scimitar) so noone used it till today.And as long as our significant foes will often be immune to crit, hard to hit (15 or more on the d20) and feats are rare, keen and impr. crit are no problem in our groups.And if ... since you must be at least level 8 to gain impr. crit. who cares ? At this level you ARE beyond masses in respect to fighting capabilities. The damage rises slowly (strength and weapon spec.) and an improved crit. range is the one thing that makes you better than the 4th level guard with high STR and a keen weapon. You ARE better at inflicting serious wounds with your weapon of choice and the weapon is more capable of delivering serious wounds because of a very keen blade. Where is the problem ? Crits no longer special enough doesn't count in my book ... BYE[Edited for spelling]</blockquote>

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