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Why Did They Get Rid of the Law & Chaos Alignment?
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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 5158205" data-attributes="member: 1210"><p>In my campaign, there are now no Law & Chaos alignments because Chaos won the Great War of Ethics between them.That said...</p><p></p><p>I think that 4e has significantly redefined "Lawful Good" and "Chaotic Evil". Earlier editions' LG and CE are <em>very different</em> from 4e's (imho).</p><p></p><p>Before, LG meant that one honored authority and tradition, did what was best for the greatest number, etc. </p><p></p><p>Now LG is "anything for civilization!"</p><p></p><p>Before, CE meant that one had no respect for the rights of others, took what one wanted when one wanted, ignored the consequences that one's actions caused others, etc.</p><p></p><p>Now CE is "tear it all down!"</p><p></p><p>IMHO an old-school LG character could fall under LG, G or U in 4e. Conversely, I think a 4e LG character "back translated" could come out LG, LN, NG or even LE.</p><p></p><p>IMHO an old-school CE character could fall under CE, E or U in 4e. Conversely, I think a 4e CE character "back translated" could come out as CE, NE or CN, with a very slight chance of N, in older editions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 5158205, member: 1210"] In my campaign, there are now no Law & Chaos alignments because Chaos won the Great War of Ethics between them.That said... I think that 4e has significantly redefined "Lawful Good" and "Chaotic Evil". Earlier editions' LG and CE are [i]very different[/i] from 4e's (imho). Before, LG meant that one honored authority and tradition, did what was best for the greatest number, etc. Now LG is "anything for civilization!" Before, CE meant that one had no respect for the rights of others, took what one wanted when one wanted, ignored the consequences that one's actions caused others, etc. Now CE is "tear it all down!" IMHO an old-school LG character could fall under LG, G or U in 4e. Conversely, I think a 4e LG character "back translated" could come out LG, LN, NG or even LE. IMHO an old-school CE character could fall under CE, E or U in 4e. Conversely, I think a 4e CE character "back translated" could come out as CE, NE or CN, with a very slight chance of N, in older editions. [/QUOTE]
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