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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3594994" data-attributes="member: 22779">That's fine, except it ignores Knowledge skills.&nbsp; If I've got 15 ranks in Kn Dungeoneering, I would think that I've seen at least pictures, and pretty detailed ones at that, of pretty much anything I can make a Kn check about.&nbsp; I watched what a wizard polymorphed into a behir could do.&nbsp; It's very, very ugly.&nbsp; If your BAB is high enough, you simply substitute unarmed attacks, (sure you take the AOO) for primary attacks.&nbsp; Why you ask?&nbsp; Because every successful grapple initiates 6 rake attacks from the behir.&nbsp; With a plus umpteen grapple bonus because I'm a huge creature, I win pretty much every time.&nbsp; Grapple, rake, pin, rake.&nbsp; Continue to pin, rake.&nbsp; Obliterate pretty much any creature.&nbsp; Sure, it won't work if we're in tight quarters, but, you aren't in tight quarters in every fight.And that's just out of the SRD.&nbsp; Someone upthread mentioned how the spell no longer scales.&nbsp; GOOD.&nbsp; A 4th level spell should not be the first thing I cast when I'm 14th level.&nbsp; No other spell scales particularly.&nbsp; Most spells cap out after x levels, and, direct damage spells have all sorts of other issues like SR checks and energy immunities.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3594994, member: 22779"] That's fine, except it ignores Knowledge skills. If I've got 15 ranks in Kn Dungeoneering, I would think that I've seen at least pictures, and pretty detailed ones at that, of pretty much anything I can make a Kn check about. I watched what a wizard polymorphed into a behir could do. It's very, very ugly. If your BAB is high enough, you simply substitute unarmed attacks, (sure you take the AOO) for primary attacks. Why you ask? Because every successful grapple initiates 6 rake attacks from the behir. With a plus umpteen grapple bonus because I'm a huge creature, I win pretty much every time. Grapple, rake, pin, rake. Continue to pin, rake. Obliterate pretty much any creature. Sure, it won't work if we're in tight quarters, but, you aren't in tight quarters in every fight. And that's just out of the SRD. Someone upthread mentioned how the spell no longer scales. GOOD. A 4th level spell should not be the first thing I cast when I'm 14th level. No other spell scales particularly. Most spells cap out after x levels, and, direct damage spells have all sorts of other issues like SR checks and energy immunities. [/QUOTE]

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