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<blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 5877130" data-attributes="member: 25619"><p>Yup, me too.</p><p></p><p>The only edition updates I did were AD&D to 3e, and 3e to 3.5e.</p><p></p><p>We tried 2nd Edition for maybe a year, but we liked the flavor of AD&D better, and after trying 2nd Edition for a while, went back to AD&D, which supported all the PC's (like my LE half-orc assassin, triple not allowed in 2e) and therefore "felt right" as being "the real thing".</p><p></p><p>We eventually upgraded to 3e -- but there were specific rules on how to update (from 2e to 3e, but close enough for AD&D), so we were able to continue the same characters, the same stories in the same world -- our version of Greyhawk that I'd been running for 5 years when we switched.</p><p></p><p>Then we upgraded to 3.5e. No sweat, easy-peasy as it was almost the same as 3e.</p><p></p><p>Then we saw 4e. Two of players, who also DM their own campaigns and who are more early adopters/tech people than I am, checked it out and said "No, this isn't compatible with our campaigns, so we don't like it." I tried playing it with a different DM who liked it, but it didn't work for me.</p><p></p><p>And even if I DID like the rules, I wouldn't have switched my campaigns to it, because conversion isn't easy/isn't supported. The recommendation to kill off your old campaign world and start over doesn't work at all for me.</p><p></p><p>So: lack of backwards compatibility/convertability of PC's to the new rules, and lack of backwards compatibility for the setting. The rules need to Greyhawk/AD&D friendly, or there's no point to them for me.</p><p></p><p>Which means our next upgrade, if we ever do it, is most likely to Pathfinder, not 4e, because of compatibility.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="haakon1, post: 5877130, member: 25619"] Yup, me too. The only edition updates I did were AD&D to 3e, and 3e to 3.5e. We tried 2nd Edition for maybe a year, but we liked the flavor of AD&D better, and after trying 2nd Edition for a while, went back to AD&D, which supported all the PC's (like my LE half-orc assassin, triple not allowed in 2e) and therefore "felt right" as being "the real thing". We eventually upgraded to 3e -- but there were specific rules on how to update (from 2e to 3e, but close enough for AD&D), so we were able to continue the same characters, the same stories in the same world -- our version of Greyhawk that I'd been running for 5 years when we switched. Then we upgraded to 3.5e. No sweat, easy-peasy as it was almost the same as 3e. Then we saw 4e. Two of players, who also DM their own campaigns and who are more early adopters/tech people than I am, checked it out and said "No, this isn't compatible with our campaigns, so we don't like it." I tried playing it with a different DM who liked it, but it didn't work for me. And even if I DID like the rules, I wouldn't have switched my campaigns to it, because conversion isn't easy/isn't supported. The recommendation to kill off your old campaign world and start over doesn't work at all for me. So: lack of backwards compatibility/convertability of PC's to the new rules, and lack of backwards compatibility for the setting. The rules need to Greyhawk/AD&D friendly, or there's no point to them for me. Which means our next upgrade, if we ever do it, is most likely to Pathfinder, not 4e, because of compatibility. [/QUOTE]
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