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Why Did You Take That Level of Fighter?
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<blockquote data-quote="Tessarael" data-source="post: 9606905" data-attributes="member: 12909"><p>In our level 9 A5E campaign, we have a Dwarven Fighter 1/Wizard 8, who wears heavy armor and uses a tower shield. With his Wand of Fireballs, he does pretty high amounts of damage in an area. His AC is high, but his hit points are not that high, so he can still get in trouble sometimes. That said, it's a fun character that is moderately tanky and able to be on the front line of battle.</p><p></p><p>Any spellcaster doing a dip into Fighter is sacrificing some spellcasting progression. For the 5E D&D 2014 version, going to level 2 Fighter for Action Surge gives a spellcaster that can nova quite well at high levels. However for D&D 2024, Action Surge doesn't permit the Magic action to be taken twice. If you want to nova like that in D&D 2024, you need a Sorcerer level 2 quickened spell as a bonus action, and can cast a cantrip as your main action.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that a heavily armored spellcaster using a shield needs to keep a hand free, be a Cleric using a holy symbol emblazoned on their shield, have the War Caster feat to be able to perform somatic components while wielding weapon + shield, or otherwise have a way to have their weapon or shield as a spellcasting focus at least.</p><p></p><p>There are other ways to fix the desire to level dip into Fighter for a spellcaster. For example, the <a href="https://a5e.tools/spell/mage-armor" target="_blank">A5E Stekart's Enhanced Mage Armor</a> rare spell variant gives AC 10 + your proficiency bonus + Dexterity modifier. So you're able to get AC closer to heavier types at high levels, particularly with Bracers of Defense +2.</p><p></p><p>In A5E, the other motivation for a level dip into Fighter is to pick up some combat maneuvers and for faster combat maneuver progression, which can be quite useful for some builds.</p><p></p><p>Note that you can also get heavy armor + shield proficiency from a level dip into Cleric.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tessarael, post: 9606905, member: 12909"] In our level 9 A5E campaign, we have a Dwarven Fighter 1/Wizard 8, who wears heavy armor and uses a tower shield. With his Wand of Fireballs, he does pretty high amounts of damage in an area. His AC is high, but his hit points are not that high, so he can still get in trouble sometimes. That said, it's a fun character that is moderately tanky and able to be on the front line of battle. Any spellcaster doing a dip into Fighter is sacrificing some spellcasting progression. For the 5E D&D 2014 version, going to level 2 Fighter for Action Surge gives a spellcaster that can nova quite well at high levels. However for D&D 2024, Action Surge doesn't permit the Magic action to be taken twice. If you want to nova like that in D&D 2024, you need a Sorcerer level 2 quickened spell as a bonus action, and can cast a cantrip as your main action. Keep in mind that a heavily armored spellcaster using a shield needs to keep a hand free, be a Cleric using a holy symbol emblazoned on their shield, have the War Caster feat to be able to perform somatic components while wielding weapon + shield, or otherwise have a way to have their weapon or shield as a spellcasting focus at least. There are other ways to fix the desire to level dip into Fighter for a spellcaster. For example, the [URL='https://a5e.tools/spell/mage-armor']A5E Stekart's Enhanced Mage Armor[/URL] rare spell variant gives AC 10 + your proficiency bonus + Dexterity modifier. So you're able to get AC closer to heavier types at high levels, particularly with Bracers of Defense +2. In A5E, the other motivation for a level dip into Fighter is to pick up some combat maneuvers and for faster combat maneuver progression, which can be quite useful for some builds. Note that you can also get heavy armor + shield proficiency from a level dip into Cleric. [/QUOTE]
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