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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7845828" data-attributes="member: 6987520">The bold part is certainly true. Warriors (fighters, rangers, barbarians, and paladins) learn all simple and martial weapons. There are something like 35 or so I think, compared to the 5 that wizards learn! That is a lot of combat training no matter how you try to twist it.I would argue as well that while a wizard might learn how to use a light crossbow (for mechanics purposes), a warrior is going to learn more about using those weapons. A wizard's weapon training is likely to be cursory at best.Take your pick. STR-based hill dwarf paladin or DEX-based lizardfolk ranger. Both warriors had attack bonuses equal to or less than my wizard.The mechanic issues with 5E are oversimplified proficiency bonus that doesn't make sense compared to prior editions and bloated HP which is a result of the BA used in 5E. Same issue (if you have it-- never bothered me personally), different mechanic.And how I think things should be is what makes sense to me and is why I take issue with it. A flaw in the mechanics. If you don't have a problem with it (seems you don't), then why are you trying to convince me?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7845828, member: 6987520"] The bold part is certainly true. Warriors (fighters, rangers, barbarians, and paladins) learn [I]all[/I] simple and martial weapons. There are something like 35 or so I think, compared to the [I]5[/I] that wizards learn! That is a lot of combat training no matter how you try to twist it. I would argue as well that while a wizard might learn how to use a light crossbow (for mechanics purposes), a warrior is going to learn [I]more[/I] about using those weapons. A wizard's weapon training is likely to be cursory at best. Take your pick. STR-based hill dwarf paladin or DEX-based lizardfolk ranger. Both warriors had attack bonuses equal to or less than my wizard. The mechanic issues with 5E are oversimplified proficiency bonus that doesn't make sense compared to prior editions and bloated HP which is a result of the BA used in 5E. Same issue (if you have it-- never bothered me personally), different mechanic. And how I think things should be is what makes sense to me and is why I take issue with it. A flaw in the mechanics. If you don't have a problem with it (seems you don't), then why are you trying to convince me? [/QUOTE]

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