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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7846005" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Well, I've gone over this in other threads so I will try to be brief. Consider a character with stealth and how often they use it over the course of hundreds of thousands of XP and use, how many rolls the player makes for its use. Now, 20 levels later, against the same orc they snuck by a level 1, they are only 20% better (the 4 point increase from +2 to +6) than they were all that experience and uses before. True, their DEX might increase a +1 or so depending on class, feat selection, etc. but that is another failing as I see in 5E since to my mind skill should trump ability at higher levels. I know in 5E, the bonus from ability can represent some skill, and not just natural talent, but that is also sort of a band-aid solution IMO.</blockquote>