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<blockquote data-quote="Salthorae" data-source="post: 7847364" data-attributes="member: 1095">I mean, the only reason this issue exists is that Dex became a combat attribute for everyone in 5e with no costs. Otherwise, proficiency bonus or not, if a Wizard didn't add Dex to their attack rolls they wouldn't be as good as a fighter. There might be a small # of wizards who still equaled out, but as we discovered in the grant &quot;what is a 1st level fighter thread&quot;, 1st level PC's can have any range of starting backstories to support the mechanics of their class.Maybe the default 5e presumption is that for those few weapons with which a wizard is proficient, they have trained at them (in however way you get there FLUFF wise) to the point of becoming combat proficient.If there are people out there who support a farmboy turned fighter who can be proficient in ANY weapon mechanically and people don't have an issue with it from a fluff perspective, surely there is room for a wizard who is up to snuff in his few weapons in combat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Salthorae, post: 7847364, member: 1095"] I mean, the only reason this issue exists is that Dex became a combat attribute for everyone in 5e with no costs. Otherwise, proficiency bonus or not, if a Wizard didn't add Dex to their attack rolls they wouldn't be as good as a fighter. There might be a small # of wizards who still equaled out, but as we discovered in the grant "what is a 1st level fighter thread", 1st level PC's can have any range of starting backstories to support the mechanics of their class. Maybe the default 5e presumption is that for those few weapons with which a wizard is proficient, they have trained at them (in however way you get there FLUFF wise) to the point of becoming combat proficient. If there are people out there who support a farmboy turned fighter who can be proficient in ANY weapon mechanically and people don't have an issue with it from a fluff perspective, surely there is room for a wizard who is up to snuff in his few weapons in combat. [/QUOTE]

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