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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WayneLigon" data-source="post: 2517398" data-attributes="member: 3649">The 'destroy all lower level undead in sight unless I roll really badly' part is one of the reasons. The other was, in 3.0, those buffing spells lasted for hours per level, not minutes. So your cleric would get up in the morning and read off some scrolls. Suddenly the fighter has extra strength, the rogue has extra dex, the biggest guy is hit with that spell that makes you a Large creature plus buffs you, everyone has some more resistances, and those will last their entire waking day. And he'd still have his normal spell selections to provide on the spot buffs and heals. So that's where a lot of the talk about them being overly powerful came from,  I think. Some might consider being able to use most weapons and use decent armor and use spells with no chance of spell failure to be 'overly powerful' as well.</blockquote>