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<blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 4601605" data-attributes="member: 54846">And, for the sake of that same argument, how can swarms be dazed by a single attack? Let's mark that one out. How can a single attack stun a swarm? That one's out. Same with blinded, and slowed. Doesn't make sense how a rogue can sneak-attack a swarm either! Well! So really, any effect that isn't delivered by a spell makes no sense how it can affect hundreds of tiny insects at once. Swarms are nigh-invulnerable (except against area effects).Part of the problem, Felon, is that PCs have few resources (powers). If monsters just have 'well, this is x, so y power doesn't work on them', the PC who selected power y is now out in the cold. Yeah, it may seem to facilitate that feel, but it also buggers the player. I am firmly in the 'rogues should be able to sneak attack every damn thing that moves'. So the player who chose various slide/knock prone powers are now pretty much boned, when facing oozes.This is even moreso when battling swarms. Melee characters are all ready buggered, doing half damage in the first place. And you're suggesting they be even more over a barrel, and utterly useless against a swarm, because the effect doesn't make narrative sense?In that environment, I'd refuse to play any martial class, because I'm being gimped for ease of disbelief suspension.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rechan, post: 4601605, member: 54846"] And, for the sake of that same argument, how can swarms be dazed by a single attack? Let's mark that one out. How can a single attack stun a swarm? That one's out. Same with blinded, and slowed. Doesn't make sense how a rogue can sneak-attack a swarm either! Well! So really, any effect that isn't delivered by a spell makes no sense how it can affect hundreds of tiny insects at once. Swarms are nigh-invulnerable (except against area effects). Part of the problem, Felon, is that PCs have few resources (powers). If monsters just have 'well, this is x, so y power doesn't work on them', the PC who selected power y is now out in the cold. Yeah, it may seem to facilitate that feel, but it also buggers the player. I am firmly in the 'rogues should be able to sneak attack every damn thing that moves'. So the player who chose various slide/knock prone powers are now pretty much boned, when facing oozes. This is even [I]moreso[/I] when battling swarms. Melee characters are all ready buggered, doing half damage in the first place. And you're suggesting they be even [I]more[/I] over a barrel, and utterly useless against a swarm, because the effect doesn't make narrative sense? In that environment, I'd refuse to play any martial class, because I'm being gimped for ease of disbelief suspension. [/QUOTE]

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