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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5898099" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>I'd also point out on the door tangent, that if your doors require more than thirty or so pounds of pressure to open, that's a seriously stuck door.</p><p></p><p>Look, even without going all splat book, you can pretty much eliminate the rogue fairly easily. A 5th level wizard needs 5000 xp to go to 6th level. Lets say he takes craft wand (a bonus feat) and gives up 10% of his xp for the level - 500 xp. 500 xp worth of crafting is 25000 gp worth of crafted wands (50k gp at full market price). IOW, it's enough to make about 20 1st and 2nd level wands. It will take him about three weeks to do this. Not exactly a huge time expenditure. Most campaigns do allow you to take a couple of weeks between adventures.</p><p></p><p>With 20 wands, the group now has 2 cure light wands per PC and 10 or 12 more wands to cover all the more common utility spells. That means that the whole Vancian limits goes straight out the window.</p><p></p><p>At 6th level, he gives up 500 more xp and crafts scrolls. Yup, he'll be lagging a bit behind, but, never a full level - only a bit. He'll certainly level up before anyone else levels another level. This gives him about 100 scrolls of 1st -3rd level. Again, enough scrolls that any spell he could possibly want to cast (including any cleric spell since we'd obviously have the characters work together) is readily available.</p><p></p><p>From that point on, he adds a bit here and there, higher level scrolls and whatnot and replacing used scrolls.</p><p></p><p>This doesn't require anything from any splat book. It doesn't require a single magic mart. It only requires a single feat from the PHB.</p><p></p><p>So all the verbiage about magic marts, and limiting splats, and the DM "reining things in" is ludicrous. It's a single feat. It is a minor expense. And it makes the caster characters into pretty much At Will casters with none of the limitations of Vancian casting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5898099, member: 22779"] I'd also point out on the door tangent, that if your doors require more than thirty or so pounds of pressure to open, that's a seriously stuck door. Look, even without going all splat book, you can pretty much eliminate the rogue fairly easily. A 5th level wizard needs 5000 xp to go to 6th level. Lets say he takes craft wand (a bonus feat) and gives up 10% of his xp for the level - 500 xp. 500 xp worth of crafting is 25000 gp worth of crafted wands (50k gp at full market price). IOW, it's enough to make about 20 1st and 2nd level wands. It will take him about three weeks to do this. Not exactly a huge time expenditure. Most campaigns do allow you to take a couple of weeks between adventures. With 20 wands, the group now has 2 cure light wands per PC and 10 or 12 more wands to cover all the more common utility spells. That means that the whole Vancian limits goes straight out the window. At 6th level, he gives up 500 more xp and crafts scrolls. Yup, he'll be lagging a bit behind, but, never a full level - only a bit. He'll certainly level up before anyone else levels another level. This gives him about 100 scrolls of 1st -3rd level. Again, enough scrolls that any spell he could possibly want to cast (including any cleric spell since we'd obviously have the characters work together) is readily available. From that point on, he adds a bit here and there, higher level scrolls and whatnot and replacing used scrolls. This doesn't require anything from any splat book. It doesn't require a single magic mart. It only requires a single feat from the PHB. So all the verbiage about magic marts, and limiting splats, and the DM "reining things in" is ludicrous. It's a single feat. It is a minor expense. And it makes the caster characters into pretty much At Will casters with none of the limitations of Vancian casting. [/QUOTE]
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