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Message: <blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 5901389" data-attributes="member: 40166">That has nothing to do with any pre-existing version of D&D, so it shouldn't be a concern for the creators of D&D 5. If you're implying that's like D&D 3, let me note that a fireball does a d6 per level, so that would be a lucky roll even cast from a 10th level wizard; a 10th level fighter is not likely with a +10 BAB and some ST and magic bonuses to miss anything with 18 HP; a 10th level fighter has 10d10 hit points + 10 * Con modifier, which is likely to be much more than 40, 10th level Druids can turn into large animals, not elemental golem dragons, and creatures with 18 hp are unlikely to be able to hit a 19 AC (easily accessible by a 10th level fighter) all that easily.Are there cases where the wizard and cleric overshadow the fighter in D&D 3? Certainly. At the same time, when I can burn one of my highest-level spell and do 40 points a piece to 8 creatures (if I caught them early enough that they were all bunched up), and the fighter can do the 120 points to kill an unharmed one in one round, (both actual numbers from last night) I don't think either of us particularly felt overshadowed. I think the difference between a wizard and a fighter in combat in 3.x is a lot less then the portrait you're painting, especially if you have wizards and clerics who buff the fighter instead of themselves.</blockquote>