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Why do all classes have to be balanced?
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<blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 5901445" data-attributes="member: 40166"><p>None of it was from buffs. I tend to do see the casters buffing the fighters as a good thing; in my experience it tends to make them both feel like they're involved in the ultimate defeat of the enemy, instead of making one feel like they're overshadowing the other.</p><p></p><p>Quite a bit of that was probably from magical items. I don't really see that as a problem; it's not true that anybody could use them. A lot of them are large weapons, and even if he were medium size and the weapons similarly sized, he'd still be the one getting them. For him, the dragonlance is part of his character's identity.</p><p></p><p>The CoDzilla is a different matter; in this campaign, the cleric has wrapped herself in vows of non-violence, the druid doesn't have an animal companion (as the DM doesn't like secondary PCs and will kill them), and the druid's player doesn't strike me as terribly skilled. Heck, for all the claimed power of the wizard, I frequently feel like I must be playing it poorly because it doesn't feel that way to me.</p><p></p><p>In any case, I don't think anyone feels overshadowed in our party, caster or no.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure that's a productive discussion line. I think I proved my point, that the given example wasn't a realistic example, and it's very hard to work from an underdetailed and proved inaccurate example. </p><p></p><p>I don't debate that a cleric or druid can be a better fighter then a fighter; I don't really see a wizard being terribly overpowering in battle, but I can see that their versatility outside of battle can be a real problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prosfilaes, post: 5901445, member: 40166"] None of it was from buffs. I tend to do see the casters buffing the fighters as a good thing; in my experience it tends to make them both feel like they're involved in the ultimate defeat of the enemy, instead of making one feel like they're overshadowing the other. Quite a bit of that was probably from magical items. I don't really see that as a problem; it's not true that anybody could use them. A lot of them are large weapons, and even if he were medium size and the weapons similarly sized, he'd still be the one getting them. For him, the dragonlance is part of his character's identity. The CoDzilla is a different matter; in this campaign, the cleric has wrapped herself in vows of non-violence, the druid doesn't have an animal companion (as the DM doesn't like secondary PCs and will kill them), and the druid's player doesn't strike me as terribly skilled. Heck, for all the claimed power of the wizard, I frequently feel like I must be playing it poorly because it doesn't feel that way to me. In any case, I don't think anyone feels overshadowed in our party, caster or no. I'm not sure that's a productive discussion line. I think I proved my point, that the given example wasn't a realistic example, and it's very hard to work from an underdetailed and proved inaccurate example. I don't debate that a cleric or druid can be a better fighter then a fighter; I don't really see a wizard being terribly overpowering in battle, but I can see that their versatility outside of battle can be a real problem. [/QUOTE]
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