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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doug McCrae" data-source="post: 5905674" data-attributes="member: 21169">Yes, it was a corner case, I chose it because it was so clearly one-sided. Ryan's rog/fgtr/bar contributed absolutely nothing to the encounter, and John's cleric only one spell, though admittedly an important one.However I don't think there was a single encounter in that whole campaign where Ryan's character dominated in the way my PC did versus the ragewalker. His PC felt significantly underpowered, imo, compared to the two casters. All of us were good tacticians I'd say, and decent powergamers, but Ryan was gimped from the beginning by choosing to play a non-caster.There was an early encounter against a golem, where all my PC did was cast haste. But after that I learned and started to use conjurations. (It was the first time I'd really played 3e.) That I take as further evidence of the tremendous power of casters in 3e D&D. Many problems can be solved by changing one's spell loadout. A non-caster otoh is stuck with their feat and skill selection.</blockquote>