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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5906443" data-attributes="member: 22779">See, this is just not true.&nbsp; My wizard can do everything your rogue can do, can do it better and can do it more often.&nbsp; Not by being a dick or by abusing the rules, but by using the baseline mechanics in the PHB.Now, do I do this?&nbsp; Nope, at least, not intentionally.&nbsp; I have stepped on the group's toes from time to time, simply by picking options that are easily available without realizing quite how powerful they can be and I've completely bypassed entire challenges the same way, but, not intentionally.The problem is, the casters are SO powerful at higher levels that it's virtually impossible NOT to do it.&nbsp; Again, it's not a case of players being dicks here.&nbsp; It's a major flaw in the system that is very easily exploitable.&nbsp; Sure, we could return to the days when a caster actually got to do something related to his class about 10% of the time, but, considering how much people complain about the nerfing of casters in 4e, I'm thinking that returning to AD&amp;D levels isn't going to work either.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5906443, member: 22779"] See, this is just not true. My wizard can do everything your rogue can do, can do it better and can do it more often. Not by being a dick or by abusing the rules, but by using the baseline mechanics in the PHB. Now, do I do this? Nope, at least, not intentionally. I have stepped on the group's toes from time to time, simply by picking options that are easily available without realizing quite how powerful they can be and I've completely bypassed entire challenges the same way, but, not intentionally. The problem is, the casters are SO powerful at higher levels that it's virtually impossible NOT to do it. Again, it's not a case of players being dicks here. It's a major flaw in the system that is very easily exploitable. Sure, we could return to the days when a caster actually got to do something related to his class about 10% of the time, but, considering how much people complain about the nerfing of casters in 4e, I'm thinking that returning to AD&D levels isn't going to work either. [/QUOTE]

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