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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4985101" data-attributes="member: 18280">Are you objecting to the term, or claiming that the meaning of the term is not accurate?  Please note that, within the context of the discussion, "teleporting treasure" refers to the fact that the treasure is moved until the PCs find it (as opposed to potentially remaining missed), not the actual method of its being moved.Of course.  No one, for example, would make a thread asking for answers to the argument that wizards are nerfed in 4e, because no one would ever think of trying to counter a valid observation with a clever argument.Sorry, but there are two types of dishonesty that I think damaging to discussions here:(1)  Dishonesty with others.  I.e., I want Bob to join my 4e game, but Bob doesn't like how wizards are nerfed, so how can I convince him otherwise?  Or, as an obvious subset, some people don't like X about game Y, and I like game Y, so how can I convince them that X is the same in game Z, which they like?(2)  Dishonest with self.  Sorry, but I am with Freud and Jung in believing that people often fail to examine/understand their own motives.  If what someone is saying is at odds with itself, or is at odds with what the person does, I generally assume that either (a) what the person does is closer to the truth than what the person says and that (b) statements that are at odds with each other mean that neither can be accepted at face value.YMMV, of course.RC</blockquote>

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