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<blockquote data-quote="Turtlejay" data-source="post: 4787086" data-attributes="member: 70267"><p>I've fought 2 4e dragons, and one was a black dragon.</p><p></p><p>Despite being hampered because we caught him in his cave, he was a tough fight that required us to use a lot of our resources. The only thing that even made it doable was our warlord and the slides she gave us (white raven onslaught, i think) so that we could get him to the edge of the darkness. Even with the lack of mobility and tactics like that it was tough. Tougher than 5 dire bears. Why? A few reasons. 5 dire bears would take extra damage from area attacks (tageting more than 1 bear means you are effectively doing damage above that which you would to just 1 solo), they are beasts, so our tactics are more effective. Things like forcing a bottleneck.</p><p></p><p>The fight against the green was tough too, for different reasons. We were on a boat, and the dragon used his breath weapon on us, nothing we could do since we were clustered, and dragon fear made us leap off the edges of the boat. It was tough, and if we did not have a wizard and a ranged striker I am not sure we would have survived.</p><p></p><p>With all fights terrain matters. Dragons should be fought in a terrain that matches their epic nature, not an open, featureless grassy field. That is where you fight dire bears. Because this whole thing is in the DM's lap. He should not be calculating average damage per round, he should be setting up a fight to be entertaining and to showcase the abilities of his mobs.</p><p></p><p>Jay</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Turtlejay, post: 4787086, member: 70267"] I've fought 2 4e dragons, and one was a black dragon. Despite being hampered because we caught him in his cave, he was a tough fight that required us to use a lot of our resources. The only thing that even made it doable was our warlord and the slides she gave us (white raven onslaught, i think) so that we could get him to the edge of the darkness. Even with the lack of mobility and tactics like that it was tough. Tougher than 5 dire bears. Why? A few reasons. 5 dire bears would take extra damage from area attacks (tageting more than 1 bear means you are effectively doing damage above that which you would to just 1 solo), they are beasts, so our tactics are more effective. Things like forcing a bottleneck. The fight against the green was tough too, for different reasons. We were on a boat, and the dragon used his breath weapon on us, nothing we could do since we were clustered, and dragon fear made us leap off the edges of the boat. It was tough, and if we did not have a wizard and a ranged striker I am not sure we would have survived. With all fights terrain matters. Dragons should be fought in a terrain that matches their epic nature, not an open, featureless grassy field. That is where you fight dire bears. Because this whole thing is in the DM's lap. He should not be calculating average damage per round, he should be setting up a fight to be entertaining and to showcase the abilities of his mobs. Jay [/QUOTE]
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